I saw many pictures on the web and some of them are based on "generative art", algorithm art pictures. Like Hansmeyer's subdivision technique.
Wiki definition :
Generative art refers to art that in whole or in part has been created with the use of an autonomous system. An autonomous system in this context is generally one that is non-human and can independently determine features of an artwork that would otherwise require decisions made directly by the artist.
Is there a possibility to have a sort of generative art function in SA ?
I know, there is a random and mutate tool that can be used with the gallery show, and also in the paint synth, (brush source menu/source generative) but why not a new Tool, like the paint synth, the vectorizer, MSG, etc...only based on mutated or subdivision alogrithms ?
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Whether it's modulated subdivision or other types of algorithms, what often attracts me about much art under the generative umbrella are the symmetric or asymmetric animated meshes - which is broad, but that's a wish.
Thought I would re-post some links that John gave in a reply to a thread somewhere else:
Series of blog posts on generative art
Posts on procedural art
MSG Source Image Abstraction
Adding a Pull-In Attractor to a Time Particle Paint Animation
Abstract Generative Animation Using Time Particles and Water Wash E...
MSG Symmetry Patterning Animation
Adding a Pull-In Attractor to a Time Particle Paint Animation
Not quite sure what you mean by the mesh comment. if you want to post an example or 2 i can try to point out how to generate it in Studio Artist or add the functionality if it's missing. If you're looking for delaunay triangulation we did post a way to build that kind of effect using a PASeq on the forum a while ago. And SA v5 has several very direct ways to generate that kind of effect (including the vectorizer).
this is a kind of Delaunay variation, also interesting. Is that possible with the new added tools ?
Yes. In the vectorizer, you'd just have the edges of the triangles draw.
do you have a preset for this effect? can you share it?
or is a regular feature in V4? I can´t find it
The triangulation picture posted above was realized with processing.
But now possible with V5....
I've been going back over some previous threads to catch up a little. It seems to me the wish to have more or different kinds of generative, or generative looking, processors, presets etc. kind of got sidetracked by the discussion of what is or isn't considered generative. John, I know some of the capabilities do exist and I've fallen short in doing what I would like to do in Studio Artist. The links you've put up so far have been tremendously helpful and perhaps that's what might be helpful, to ask for more tutorials on this in the future. I do refer to the appearance of more ordered, mathematically driven generative capabilities more than more random or chaotic generation but I'm interested in pursuing that as well. So far, it's a lack of understanding on my part, which variables are best to be altered and how with an MSG processor. I am uploading a few examples of work I've done lately, some in Studio Artist, but others created in a generative art program (Android) called Agenart.
Anyway hoping to see something in the UI that helps to create images with unique digital, generative artefacts, an ongoing project of mine. Thanks!
Mark
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It took me a bit to find the images I was thinking of. As we've all discussed generative art covers a lot of ground. What I'm posting here is intentionally specific and somewhat narrow. Since seeing some of these folks work I've been trying to figure out ways accomplish my own rendering of the style and see where it goes.
These images are by three people - Jared Tarbell, Marius Watz and Casey Reas, who co-wrote Processing with Ben Fry. I'm sure many of you are familiar with them.
It does seem that MSG is more suited for some of this work as John points out for several good reasons. I have an idea of which processors might be candidates but haven't gotten much further. Maybe someday if someone has a suggestion, or comes up with a set of variables in a processor that would produce similar results, I'd sure be interested.
A couple of other things occurred to me. It seems to me that, at whatever level of work it would require, that Vectorizer could produce some really interesting results or at least for use as part of a work. You could have lines and curves coming in as data so it would seem vectors might be worth a look? I'm recalling Bernard's initial images of geometry drawn to fit within shapes. In other words, do you think it would be possible to use Vectorizer, perhaps in conjunction with another element of the program, to do the recursions - if I'm using that word in the right way.
This is just one of my interests - I do realize there are a lot of different approaches to generative art and people are asking for different things. This is just what I'm focused on at the moment. Thanks!
Jared Tarbell
Marius Watz
Casey Reas
You can use the paint synthesizer to generate most of your examples. Just use vector paint presets if you want that vector paint vector look.
If you want to paint a chaotic attractor, then you can use MSG to drive the paint synthesizer.
The second and third examples are a little different. You could probably put something together in the paint synth that might emulate some of the look of the third, but the second is very structured and looks like a visualization of an audio waveform.
and this video is interesting too.....dynamic generative art !
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